Gamestop Scandal! Removing OnLive Coupons from Deus Ex Human Revolution! Digital War!
Original post:
You can read the article on Original-Gamer.com here http://original-gamer.com/?action=article&id=2793
And also on Kotaku here,
http://kotaku.com/5834169/gamestop-pulls-pc-deus-ex-human-revolution-from-shelves-following-onlive-debacle
Shacknews also has an article about the legalities of what Gamestop did, pointing out it may have been illegal
http://www.shacknews.com/article/69885/gamestops-onlive-response-probably-legal
In a nutshell, Gamestop ordered its employees to remove a coupon for free access to an OnLive copy of Deus Ex Human Revolution. Gamestop felt threatened because they are working on their own streaming videogame service, so they ordered the coupon removed from the copies-- yet are still selling those games as "new" at full retail price. Now they are outright pulling the game from the shelves and returning them to Square-Enix.
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Original post:
You can read the article on Original-Gamer.com here http://original-gamer.com/?action=article&id=2793
And also on Kotaku here,
http://kotaku.com/5834169/gamestop-pulls-pc-deus-ex-human-revolution-from-shelves-following-onlive-debacle
Shacknews also has an article about the legalities of what Gamestop did, pointing out it may have been illegal
http://www.shacknews.com/article/69885/gamestops-onlive-response-probably-legal
In a nutshell, Gamestop ordered its employees to remove a coupon for free access to an OnLive copy of Deus Ex Human Revolution. Gamestop felt threatened because they are working on their own streaming videogame service, so they ordered the coupon removed from the copies– yet are still selling those games as “new” at full retail price. Now they are outright pulling the game from the shelves and returning them to Square-Enix.
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why are you even posting this. this is none of our busness cus if you dont like it contact them
i don't like steam and onlive because they are killing the retailers but i don't live in the us so we don't have gamestop over here we have good retailers here in the uk it's sad to see them sinking into bankruptcy when i buy games i like to browse through and handle the product and thus i support retailers.
@HumorousLOL Ooh, breaking out the ad hominem. Truly you are the correct one. And I have had stores take it back for a full refund. It happened with an old NHL Gamecube game, Animal Crossing: City Folk, and one of the Raving Rabbids games. Obviously I can't prove to you I got a full refund for them, but obviously I wouldn't make such a claim without knowledge it had happened. If you want proof of it happening though, look at the end of Angry Joe's Sonic Free Riders Review. There's your proof.
@AREAlhero You are retarded. Taking what I said literally and mocking it just proves you are trying too hard to prove you are right when you know you are 100% wrong. It does lose its value because NO STORE WILL TAKE IT BACK FOR A FULL REFUND. They may be "superficial" but that is a fact, there's no denying it and no arguing about it. As I said, show me proof that any retail store will offer a full refund on a NEW game that you took the wrapping off of. Until then, shut your mouth.
@AREAlhero You are retarded. Taking what I said literally and mocking it just proves you are trying too hard to prove you are right when you know you are 100% wrong. It does lose its value because NO STORE WILL TAKE IT BACK FOR A FULL REFUND. They may be "superficial" but that is a fact, there's no denying it and no arguing about it. As I said, show me proof that any retail store will offer a full refund on a NEW game that you took the wrapping off of. Until then, shut your mouth.
@HumorousLOL It is not a fact, it is the store's policy. In reality, does just opening that cause it to lose value? Does exposing it to the air somehow cause a reaction in which value is lost? No? Exactly. Stores are superficial about this, and so is anyone who supports that view point.
@AREAlhero Dude.. it doesn't matter what you think and want to argue. Its a fact that the value goes down, this isn't something that's up for debate. Find me a retail store that will allow you to return brand new games for a FULL refund after taking off the wrapper. Show me proof. Till then, you are wrong.
@HumorousLOL Clearly you don't know how to barter. I have done it before. Angry Joe famously has done it before. And besides we're getting off topic, the point was that breaking the seal like Gamestop has infamously done for their games, diminishes the value. I argue it does not, as long as the game is still there, intact, as well as any other feelies or such that come with it. That's all my point ever was.
@AREAlhero The point I'm making is very simple, its not my fault you are too stupid to see it. Breaking the seal off games doesn't change the physical state of the game, but it doesn't diminish the value. Once its opened, anything could have been done to it, which is they stores won't take back new opened games, dvds, etc. for a full refund. I was proving you wrong and you still want to lie to be right when you are clearly wrong.
@AREAlhero Bullshit. You can't return NEW games for a refund if you broke the seal and took off the wrapper. You are lying out of your ass because those rules don't even change by region, its a universal policy for every Gamestop.
@HumorousLOL You can definitely return opened console games to Gamestop, I've done so plenty of times. Full refund every time. I don't see what point you're trying to make.
@AREAlhero Oh okay, I'm misinformed even though I WORKED THERE? I wasn't talking about only Gamestop, I was talking about every other store. This isn't about PC software only either. I mean console games too. I'm not misinformed, you are. New console games don't need keys to work. Revise your explanation please.
@HumorousLOL No, you are vastly misinformed. Gamestop doesn't allow you to refund software because each disk only allows for download to one account. The CD Key only works once. If they allowed people to do this, then every person would just get the game downloaded from the CD, return it to the store to get their money back, and whomever would purchase that disk would be unable to get the game from it.
@AREAlhero If you say that opening it does not diminish the value then why do stores including Gamestop themselves not give refunds on software that's opened? Exactly, because its opened and anything could have been done to the disc. I know of no store that will refund your money after opening software. Also about the disc not being used, bullshit. I used to work at one and they would use new opened discs to test consoles then put it back.
I live in a town with a very well kept gamestop. Ive been to several on my travels and only seen a few unkept ones. Those stores are usually closed after a while anyway. Like it was said before the coupons were not supposed to be in there. As per agreement with Square they were not to put anything that advertised a competting company and Onlive is a competitor of gamestops new online service. The games value are not dropped by opening it. Why have a second copy of the same game anyway
Selling games through brick and mortar stores is a dying practice. All games will move to digital distribution within the next couple of years. Its already happening to movie stores. Gamestop is basically living off of pre-orders now. The only reason they are still in business is because they have a deal with EA. Steam alone controls somewhere between 50-70% of the PC market.
@cozunon Please send me a link to this announcement where Square admits the coupon wasn't suppose to be there. I mean, OnLive and Square jointly announced the deal on the 23rd, and I'd actually known about it prior because we have access to a press account, but whatever. Show me this article. I'm open minded.
The coupons were not supposed to be in the box, square already announced this, that's why their not pissed off., Not because their afraid of Gamestop. Your whole point is flawed either because your lazy, and you didn't want to look up any other news article about this, or you just hate Gamestop a lot, and want everyone else who hates Gamestop to subscribe to you. and you posted this on the 25th? Really and you couldn't get all of the information straight?!?
Just a suggestion; maybe move a little closer to your computer or move your camera slightly to your left. Video quality is really good but the camera keeps wanting to focus in on the Rock Band guitar behind you and it's making your face out of focus from time to time.